Playing Poker with Natasha Romanoff

Menuda pasada de mazo, acabo de cargarme a Calavera en Experto, lo que más fastidia son las armas que le suben plan y la que le da represalia (esa especialmente), y que tuve mala suerte y se ventiló el segundo plan en una ronda en la que aún no había montado el combo de recuperar el contraespionaje, pero aguanté con el tercer plan con bajo sospecha sin sudar en ningún momento. Magnifico ver como acumula accesorios inútiles e incluso algún esbirro sin planificación y ataque veloz, lo fui poniendo todo en la nueva zona de juego que he llamado Pila de basura.

Ahora toca probar contra algún Villano jodido.

Enhorabuena por este mazo que además de temático le da un rollo totalmente nuevo al juego.

Wiccan feels like a great add. Very cool idea!

Quake is such a no-brainer for Natasha, going to add this to my deck too. Thanks for sharing!

Bueno pues lo prometido es deuda, y voy a montar el mazo y empezar la campaña de Craneo Rojo, eso si, empezare en normal, hasta que controle el mazo.

Calavera derrotado en modo normal, ni me ha tocado, y dos armas experimentales que ha sacado, se las he quitado, si vas sobrado de recursos. Este mazo es demasiado, menos mal que no buscabas nada competitivo, me he venido tan arriba que lo jugare en modo experto XD

what an awesome achievement for a deck!

can't wait to try this out

Muchas gracias a todos por vuestros comentarios! / Thanks a lot for your comments! PD: @dr00``@SchmendrixNice to see here great deck builders, cheers!

Probado y me ha parecido muy original y loca idea. Me lo guardo para más veces. Las dos primeras contra Rino me han convencido 1vs1

Vencido a Supervisor en Experto, un paseo en el parque! También gane contra Rhino Experto con 2 jugadores, siendo mi compañero Capitana Marvel de protección

This is extremely fun. Just won 2 games in a row. Never flipped. I only existed Natasha once to heal after some indirect damage. She was stunned almost the entirety of the second game but it didn't matter. Played against Taskmaster and Wrecker

*exhausted Natasha once.

Just wondering on thoughts on justice Spider-Man ally? I generally play with 3-4 people and love playing him in my variation of this deck. I could definitely see his worth dropping heavily in a 1-2 player game, but he still wouldn’t be a terrible ally.

@IlEmperatoreI actually really enjoy playing with Black Widow. I just have one issue with your idea and that is a lot of her great cards require her to be in Hero form. Dance with Death and her personal preparation cards require her to be in hero form. Do you just use those cards as resources? I am very confused/intrigued how you make this work.

@Ezradore not possible if you're playing it right. I agree with @StuWal19. This deck got a lot of likes, but I'm a bit confused on how it's played. Covert Ops and Black Widow's Gauntlet are Hero cards which means you need to be in Hero form to use them. You can't be in Alter Ego and use the abilities on those cards....

Covert Ops is absolutely not a Hero Action. Just an Action, which means it can be played in AE.

@Schmendrix Ok maybe I was confused because Covert Ops is a Hero card. I understand what you're saying because it just says "action" but that still doesn't explain Black Widow's Gauntlet which is a Hero upgrade card. Are you saying you can use this card in Alter Ego? She's not in her suit, she's playing poker so it doesn't make any logical sense to me.

@Schmendrix Actually after looking at Enhanced Physique which says "Hero Resource" it makes sense game wise I guess that you can use Black Widow's Gauntlet in AE. Still it can be confusing. How would she have her gauntlet in alter ego lol!

@Schmendrix``@dambr7``@IlEmperatore all hero AE cards aside when the resource cards say hero action how are we rationalizing playing it in AE. We break the rules on resource cards? You either get a resource to play a prep card in hero or you get a card for playing a prep card in AE not both. I am all for bending rules to make this game easier but this isn't a stretch or missed ruling by FFG like i have seen before on these forums. I like black widow she's different to play with which is refreshing but there is a reason she is 6-10 hero strength/popularity.

Widows Gauntlet says "Resource", not "Hero resource", like Enhanced Physique. So not sure what rules you think are being broken here. You can absolutely use her Gauntlets to play preps and draw cards. Espionage is an Interrupt, not a Hero Interrupt, so can be triggered in AE for additional draw. She has the Spy trait on her AE side, so also playable in AE. Yes, you can't play her preps that say "Hero Response" or "Hero Interrupt". But no other rules are being broken by this deck.

This is a fun deck idea, but not objectively strong. Black Widow can be extremely strong with other decks, especially Protection, but is tricky to pilot.

It seems like you may be making an incorrect assumption that "Hero cards" are only playable/usable in "Hero". You need to read the text, which will indicate whether actions are "Hero" locked, "Alter ego" locked (like Aunt May) or neither, like Widow's Guantlets.

@StuWal19 I definitely do my very best to play by the book at all times. I don't break or bend rules for a cheap win. The way I interpret resource cards is if it says "Resource" Black Widow's Gauntlet you can use this in AE or "Hero Resource" Enhanced Physique where you cannot.

For the record I played this deck with a few tweaks and got absolutely destroyed against Ultron. What villain's is this deck good for?

@dambr7I’ve played a similar deck against Ultron and had no problem at all beating him. He doesn’t do too much when he can’t generate very many drones.

@ChocolatChip That's what destroyed me. I couldn't keep up. I must have had about 8 drones in front of me and couldn't get the right cards out in time with this deck. Most cards I needed turned into drones. I switched aspects to aggression with her and it was like night and day. Took him down first time.

Also, I wasn’t aware that you couldn’t play an upgrade or support that had a specific “alter ego” or “hero” ability while in the other form. I thought you were still able to play them down, but just couldn’t use them while in the other form. Can someone give me a page numvber in a rule book or rules updates that says you can’t just play upgrades/supports in any form if they don’t specify anything about who can play them?

@dambr7``@Schmendrix That's my fault I didn't actually look up her gauntlets. I assumed from the string that it was a hero resource which would really nerf her drastically. I also wasn't trying to accuse anyone either. I just see some questionable decisions/info from time to time on these forums.

@ChocolatChip that was not what I was trying to say. Sorry for confusing you. Upgrades and supports can always be played. The "actions" on the card is what you have to watch out for and be in the right form to use.

I recall when this build was released it didn't really make sense for me. My biggest issue is she has all these great preparation cards that need her to be in hero to activate. So 8 of her 15 cards are essentially resource cards? or you play them to get a card? Its doable but at some point I would have her leave the poker table and fight.

Great deck idea. I always play multiplayer or two handed, and this deck allows the other hero to go all out on the villain and minions. I have also subbed in surveillance teams for the foiled cards (I am too lazy to take them out of my Iron Man deck), and it works quite well. It's fun to be able to "hide" in alter ego until you get your Attackrobatics and Grappling Hooks and Synth Suit into play. Then change to hero form and smash the villain with Dance of Death, and then ruin their entire villain phase with your hero action prep cards. Then flip back. It's really good.

Sigo con la campaña de Craneo Rojo, el mazo de momento es competitivo, lo estoy jugando solo en AE, pero le veo posibilidades si montas mesa y una vez montada vas cambiando de vez en cuando para dar algun golpe tu tambien, lo probare dandome la vuelta, porque creo que sera un mazo mas potente aun, La idea fue hacer algo divertido solo en AE y para probar poli de barrio, y te ha salido un deck que creo que es cañero, y con un personaje que me encanta jugar. MAQUINON

a Little report

expert crossbow from all 3 Crossbones I-III done like Nothing, get Not over Main Schema 2b LOL . infinty combo plus 3Beat Corps 6 Threat every Turn. an every round 2 dmg vom quake for free. i Never Go Hero Form.

Just played this very silly deck today, and I had a lot of fun with it! Took down Crossbones. It wasn't very fast, but I managed to never flip once!

This deck seems incredibly familiar....

@M3t4lB0x (TLM) indeed...

He probado el deck y no paro de combar y controlar la partida,fullcontrol. Te sigo desde que empecé a jugar a Marvel Champions. Me gustó mucho que hubieras jugado a Magic antes.Gracias por compartir lo que saber.

Very fun deck! I played this last night and I had a ton of fun. I'm pretty new to deckbuilding with this game, do you have any ideas for upgrades/updates with this years content?

What an awesome deck, congrats. Is no longer available the video where you play it? i would like to see how it works on creator's hands. thanks!

Played an updated version of this today, beating Thanos in three player. Will have to commit the list to digital ink soon. Breaking and Entering is a good new addition. Would love to know how the author would update everything.

I play a deck very similar to this, using Followed, Command, and best of all Disguise to manage the game. I’ve had games where Natasha never left the casino. Or when she does, it’s just for a minute to do Dance of Death and then she goes right back to the poker table lol.