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JRise33 · 6131

Ever since Vision came out, I've been wanting to build a deck that revolves around the new Meditation cards and this is the result of testing:

For the Lord Of The Rings Fans, this your Treebeard build.

The oldest Ent in Middle Earth who has survived due to his epic Mediation prowess and has now crossed over into the Marvel Universe.

Why does this build work?

Two weakness of Meditation:

  • Requires Alter-Ego to use
  • Requires you to Exhaust your Alter-Ego

In order to overcome those two weaknesses we need the following:

  • A hero who benefits significantly from being Alter-Ego.
  • A way to manage threat.
  • Powerful Hero Event based cards.
  • A way to ready (can use C.I.T.T).

EDIT - Try Swapping Deft Focus in for Flora and Fauna (forgot about this card in deck building but is super important) Thanks to commenters below :)

Justice Groot aka Treebeard is the answer and checks those boxes.

Because of Meditation, you can afford significantly more high cost cards that would otherwise be too expensive to include in a deck like this.

This means you can build an extremely powerful engine in which you sit in Alter-Ego collecting growth tokens while Beat Cops manage threat until you're ready to flip.

The allies also help compliment this strategy:

Gamora can help you find more events, Wraith can help manage boosts, Rocket can help you manage guard minions and Jack Flag can beef up thwarting with the option to use grenades on minions or Tough status removal.

That way when Groot flips - its MAJOR damage and/or MAJOR threat removal.

Super fun to play in solo and multiplayer. Shouldn't have much trouble taking down most expert villains.

Enjoy!

18 comments

Jan 26, 2022 stilonxy · 4520

Neat idea, I've also been curious on which hero would benefit the most of Meditation. Have you tried this vs an expert encounter with high threat pressure? I'm a bit concerned that Beat Cop won't be enough to fend off let's say expert Green Goblin who starts the fight with 2 encounter cards in your face. Have you tried Counterintelligence for example to alleviate some pressure?

Jan 26, 2022 InigoMontoya · 4063

Deft Focus is a must in any Groot deck. Especially one that prioritizes Growth Counters. I understand why you went with "Think Fast!" for the low cost, but it also takes away a Growth Counter. If you switch it out with Concussive Blow, CB has synergy with Meditation.

Flora and Fauna is really tough to pull off solo unless you have Rocket Raccoon wait for it to come out. I agree with stilonxy on switching out some Beat Cops for Counterintelligence.

Jan 26, 2022 stilonxy · 4520

`@InigoMontoya I've always been hesitant to use "Think Fast!" for Groot. However I think the intention with this deck is to only use it once you switch to A-E which only really happens when you''ve already depleted the growth counters. Not sure how CB and Med synergize, one can only be use in hero whilst the other only in A-E. If anything, I'd switch on "Think Fast!" for another Sonic Rifle which can be payed for with Meditation.

Jan 26, 2022 neothechosen · 9806

@stilonxy "Think Fast!" is a hero action and can't be used in AE.

IMO you're better off with Counterintelligence, you can pay for Agent Coulson with Meditation to get it into your hands and not even care about switching to hero this turn.

There was a deck revolving around this, quite powerful, from Nocturnal Animal. Found the link:

marvelcdb.com

Jan 26, 2022 InigoMontoya · 4063

@stilonxy You're right. Concussive Blow is a hero action, Duh. I agree about Sonic Rifle, then. I was just concentrated on the 3 cost of CB.

Jan 26, 2022 stilonxy · 4520

@neothechosen Huh? I obviously meant that you want to use it right before you go to A-E :P. Either way, I agree that Counterintelligence+Agent Coulson is the obvious choice, as mentioned in my first comment.

Jan 26, 2022 teamcanadahockey2002 · 6597

Cool idea JRise! Fun thematic lotr thing going on here.

It's not about this deck, but wanted to share a thought to @stilonxy's comment about which hero would make use of Meditation best. I wanted to suggest a hero that wants to head to AE, is okay with exhausting, but also reliably can play a 3 cost card.

My vote: I think Shehulk gets a huge boost here because you can always put Hellcat back in your hand to play again and she benefits from flipping regularly too.

Jan 26, 2022 neothechosen · 9806

@stilonxy

Lol so sorry I misunderstood your comment!

Jan 26, 2022 journeyman2 · 18707

@teamcanadahockey2002 I think that would be great with Leadership to Command Team Hellcat and recur her a bunch of times. Team Training is almost mandatory with Hellcat nowadays as well since you only get 4 THW from 3 cost otherwise. Meditation into Split Personality also seems really good.

Jan 26, 2022 JRise33 · 6131

@InigoMontoya - I totally forgot about Deft Focus when building this deck and you're spot on. Definitely a must and maybe swapping out the Flora and Fauna for it makes the most sense?

@stilonxy - the beat cops have actually worked extremely well from my plays. I tried Counter Intelligence a little bit, but unlike the Black Widow Playing poker deck, you're flipping quite often to do damage and or massive threat clean up with "I am Groots" + confuse the villain, to then flip back and re-up on growth counters.

It's less sitting in AE and more flipping back and forth in my experience. The other thing I've found helpful is to hold a Meditation card in hand if you get unlucky with a draw, but know a 3+ cost card is likely to be pulled next turn.

Plus - it shouldn't be overlooked that Beat Cops can be extremely helpful in dealing with big minions so you're not wasting Groot Stomps + I.AM.GROOT on them.

@teamcanadahockey2002 great call about She Hulk. I'd love to see what you come up with there, because I think you're right. Another super feasible hero.

@neothechosen maybe Coulson instead of Wraith?

Jan 26, 2022 InigoMontoya · 4063

@JRise33 Those sound like good changes. :)

I might also switch out CITT for Ready to Rumble. Groot has a tough time generating resources. Especially since Lashing Vines can ready him for 2 Growth Counters instead. I totally get the want to keep Growth Counters, but I think Groot wants his cards/resources just as much.

Jan 27, 2022 JRise33 · 6131

Thanks for all the suggestions friends. Just updated the deck with most of the changes. Tested it and absolutely destroyed Mutagen Formula Expert. Link here: marvelcdb.com

@InigoMontoya definitely works great without Ready to Rumble.

Jan 27, 2022 stilonxy · 4520

@teamcanadahockey2002 That sounds like a really great idea, and I think @neothechosen just posted a she-hulk deck in progress with that strategy in mind.

@JRise33 glad to help. A small suggestion; It's very common to edit the deck lists with changes written in text (instead of creating an entirely new deck list). That way you don't have to do bloat your profile with different versions and it's also easier for people to find the latest version/changes :)

Jan 27, 2022 neothechosen · 9806

@teamcanadahockey2002 @stilonxy

Been following the thread here too.

About She-Hulk, I first tried Meditation with justice the very day I got Vision. It was okay, but not stellar. So, a few pointers if you're headed that way: of course you want Sonic Rifle for the confuse, but I found that exhausting to meditate then flipping to hero form leaves a lot to be desired; She-Hulk just needs to attack (namely to benefit from One-Two Punch / Superhuman Strength), else you're getting nowhere.

I just went back to it with leadership (to get Hellcat with Call for Aid, pay her cheap with Sneak Attack and return her to my hand so no "discard at the end of the phase"). Same here: exhauting in AE is painful... Ready to Rumble might be a good solution, I will definitly try it when I get some time.

Just my two cents!

Jan 27, 2022 neothechosen · 9806

@stilonxy``@teamcanadahockey2002

sry I meant to add: timing also seems to be the key, as in don't use Meditation when you're going into hero form, but when you revert to AE, if possible.

Jan 27, 2022 InigoMontoya · 4063

I think Adam Warlock gains the most from each Meditation he uses. He doesn't need his Hero exhaust to function. Only problem is that you can only get one copy of Meditation.

Scarlet Witch would also gain a lot from Meditation. You don't have to use hero power to thwart because of Hex Bolt. It'd be great to see a deck with 3 copies of Meditation and 3 copies of Spirtual Meditation. Haha.

Of course, once you get Doctor Strange's Cape, he also would benefit from it as well. But forget him, he doesn't need more cards! ;)

May 26, 2022 Lithrac · 147

Love this deck, thank you for sharing!

Oct 15, 2022 magret 2 canard · 1

beat expert zola thx